December 10, 2005

Why should India or China sacrifice on climate control?

If US is not willing to sacrifice even a bit on climate control – hell they don't even accept global warming exists! why should developing countries do so?

I, like any other human being want to stop global warming but I am thoroughly disappointed by the world's attitude. If US or any other Economically developed country wants to continue to pollute why on earth should a Less economically developed country stop?
India and China have strong arguments not to stop, we are in the midst of an economic boom, the issue of adverse poverty is finally being addressed, and we are finally becoming a richer society. It would be impossible for India to grow economically if it instilled strict pollution limits when other countries do not do so. if the world wants to address the issue, then the west must deliver first, If I were a negotiator I would definetely strike a deal that stops global warming but i would never do so if no one esle is interested.

Its obvious that no solution in the foreseeable future exists and developing countries should and must not suffer for the stupidity of US.


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  1. Mathew Mannion

    It seems highly childish to say that if the US don't agree to cut down emissions, then you won't either.

    10 Dec 2005, 03:09

  2. Chris May

    I'm not so sure. It would be childish for the UK to do that, since we can easily afford to cut emissions quite substantially without seriously damaging our economy.

    But in somewhere like India or China, where a large part of the national wealth is dependent on intrinsically polluting activities like heavy manufacturing, unilaterally adopting pollution controls would effectively price them out of the market, and as a result it's quite possible that people would die of poverty.

    Whilst I'm quite willing to see a few more Brits have to stand in the rain and wait for a bus instead of driving, I'm not keen to see a few hundred thousand Indians starve to death when their steelworks closes.

    10 Dec 2005, 08:26

  3. You may think it is childish, but do remember if only India does so then because of the negative impact that will have on the economy (since taxes would increase on polluting companies, new technological investment has to be made) more people will die of poverty….....I wouldn't say thts too immature an argument

    10 Dec 2005, 14:12

  4. The US economy would suffer heavily too if they made a (relatively) sudden switch to methods with reduced emissions. Their entire infrastructure is based on technologies which are out of date, i'm sure they'd happily make the change if they could afford to. Instead they seem to opting for the tactic of investing heavily into alternative methods (hydrogen fuel cells for example) to make them the only option for replacing things as they reach the end of their life cycle.

    10 Dec 2005, 14:21

  5. Well the hydrogen fuel cells is not sustainnable at the moment because it is too expensive and we don't have the capacity to accomodate lot of cars on it.
    The US can do a hellof a lot more, bas Bill Clinton said the US is mistaken in saying that for them climate control and economic growth are mutually exclusive

    11 Dec 2005, 03:14

  6. Hydrogen fuels cells not being sustainable at the moment was kind of my point, by investing heavily into it the idea is to make it sustainable and therefore a viable alternative.

    They probably aren't doing enough but on the other hand I doubt any of us have enough knowledge of the US economy to just put their failings in this area down to stupidity. I am certain that the US will turn the corner towards cleaner industry at some point but it's not going to be helped by excessive hostility.

    11 Dec 2005, 03:38

  7. Well I like your optimism but even the latest summit (the UN one) they did not agree with any other country on targets….. I think excessive hostility does help where US is concerned, the world is tired of its irresponsibility

    11 Dec 2005, 03:46


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