February 19, 2005

Medea #2 – Conceptualising Again

So JR Enterprises moves production to Warwick for something serious. A collaborative effort with "the film group", Owen, Sophie, Ricardo, Sarah and Rhyyyysss.

After feeling slightly pressurised by the term "Rothelite's Film" the above team set out to create the greatest piece of silent film since 2001: A Space Odyssey.

We considered the original idea of the film and blew it wide open. It was much easier to discuss ideas in a smaller group than it was in the first session after the loss of the conch, ideas were said that sparked other ideas and by the end we all felt very excited, after two hours of conversation we came up with some nice ideas:-

– Someone is sat in a room doing something like smoking looking depressed and possibly drunk with a dark or sleazy or dirt or sad feel (don't know yet). They could do other things aswell which would compliment the words of the speaker in front on the screen (on stage). The film would end with the killing of the children.
– Hard to explain… Gender issues rose in the opening discussion which led us to this: (Beep beep) The actor (male or female) switches all the time, whats the point? It challenges the audiences perspective of gender in certain situations, for example seeing a man depressed or a woman depressed, and later and more importantly either of them killing kids. It's not gonna switch between the same two people, its about six guys and dolls, this is to depersonify the character and narrow it down to gender (hopefully). The switches would be done in different ways, for example. Woman fully in shot goes to stub out her fag in an ashtray, close up of her hand, stubs it out. Cut to original full shot only its a guy in exactly the same position sutbbing out the same fag. AND when killing the kids, show just the killers head and shoulders and have them lit only with passing headlights from a window outside, each time different headlights pass the person has changed and is doing the same thing. It's a cheap trick but it should be good.
– The live performance is to be more stylised, if the film is realistic then the performance could be more physical, could involve line swapping, could be anything because we really don't know yet.
– My (beep beep) slight plagurism of the sound of trains screeching by and getting louder and louder to show inner turmoil!
– Fast, really fast cuts between different actions, like in Requiem For A Dream when they do it with different drug related actions and TV watching related action.
– "Laughter with knives". A seperate TV screen showing the murder, with headphones attached, the headphones are playing "Wouldn't it be nice" by The Beach Boys, listening to it now it seems to be it about a relationship and how there are hopes for it going on and greater things happening. I think that's irony but I'm never sure.

We need to consider the style of the film, be it film noir or abstract or whatever, I'm not gonna pretend I know all the styles but I have an idea in my head of how its gonna look and we need to share our thoughts on style because thats the starting point.

It seems that with the focus established as perception and opposition, we are able to conceive ideas that are more cogent and possible, with consideration of their place in the wider context of the piece. The piece as a whole is a doosy. Are the different things going on independently without regard for eachother or do they trigger eachother and time somehow? I dont think they do but it seems unclear in the group, its the uneasy reference to "Rothelite's Film" as though it will be something that everyone looks to at once when really its just a supporting element of the live performance, and its not just made by the Rothelite. There is a big issue with sound, how much sound can each thing make? if any? I figured if each is quiet enough it can be heard if you are in range but one element won't have overriding loud sound, like the film. And live performance doesn't have to be theatrically loud and booming, it almost felt like this thought hadn't occured to anyone. It's good to talk, it'll feel more personal, intimate and will draw in the viewer for a more "interactive" experience, that's what theatre is right? What?


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  1. If your gonna plagiarise plagairise coppola man!

    Hey, cos me and ian can bang out this stuff in a couple of hours can i be considered half in the film group?seeing as soph and sarah have two groups!!!!no fair!
    or maybe i should come up with me own ideas?
    or maybe i could just be a muse to fuel the creativity of others?

    good work today bingbongtherothelite….i really like your ideas and i wanna know more bout your filmic knowledge/vision. really interesting. i think this piece will be really cool if we can just layer on top other minor elements on top of our base (especially as we seem to have discarded contemporary performance and myth element of the piece) – i think to maintain interest past five minutes there needs to be small events happening, other mediums, different dimensions to it, perhaps staggered so it aint just in your face from the word go and left to peter out.

    NB. for a photograph of the beach boys go to www.blogs.warwick.ac.uk/jackhowson !"!!!!

    19 Feb 2005, 01:03

  2. I don't get the first part of that. Are you implying I steal all my ideas?
    Good point about it just fizzling out. We need to all get together with a conch and decide where things might go coz we know how big they are so we think about space and yardyyar you know wot i mean. Needs summat in the middle maybe, the small events you said could help vary the whole thing and all at once. Staggering it would let it build up, if it dusnt build up then it will slowly become less and less effective.

    19 Feb 2005, 02:09

  3. technically the film and live performance group have merged so Sophie and Sarah have been reduced to their lowly single group again. i think if anyone else joins the group at the planning stages it's going to become impossible to develop anything cos of the ol' too many cooks thing. But later on there'll definitely be things to do for other people to be a part of, but at the moment its already difficult to have a unified vision of what the film's going to be.

    19 Feb 2005, 11:31

  4. i mean the godfather, train reference rothelite…wasnt implying anything bad!!

    fair enough bout the film group thing…i got confused about the fact that the group didnt have zoe or whatever.

    coolio…get thinking all yous guys and gals about more ideas…we need other elements et al but its going well sofa

    x

    19 Feb 2005, 12:33

  5. Sorry for the misunderstanding Meridan Howson

    We need a group sesh to think about how it will all fit together. Everyone must have a good enuff idea what ther thing will be, it might be wroth doing ten minutes structure. If not just to throw ideas at eachother like your one about the audio playing over black then the film coming on. All staggered like.

    19 Feb 2005, 15:03

  6. I have lots of footage of trains and train tracks taken at Birmingham New Street if you want a look-see.

    24 Feb 2005, 16:14


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